mantik 0 Oluşturuldu: Ocak 14, 2008 Raporla Share Oluşturuldu: Ocak 14, 2008 Ateizm.org yonetimi olarak asagida gordugunuz ingilizce yaziyi laiklik, ateizm, dusunce ozgurlugu, vs gibi konularda duyarli yaklasik 40 uluslararasi kuruma gonderdik. Bu yaziyi sizler de tanidiginiz ve bu konunun duyurulmasinda yardimi olabilecegini dusundugunuz kisilere gonderebilirsiniz. Creationists control Internet access in Turkey ============================================== Ateizm.org, the most prominent non-profit Turkish web site on atheism and religions was closed for the second time in December 2007, under orders from a Turkish court. Ateizm.org was established in 2000 by three young Turkish atheists who devoted themselves to the enlightenment of Turkish people. Ateizm.org hosts an online discussion board named Ateistforum (forum.ateizm.org), one of the busiest forums for the Turkish speaking online community over the Internet. Ateizm.org received 1000 visits a day at its peak when it was open. Turkey is a land of many cultures, traditions, ethnicities and religious groups. We are proud of our recent secular past, for numerous reforms and accomplishments that took place in political, social and economic areas. Although statistically Turkey appears as 98 percent Muslim, 15 percent of Turkish population follows the Alevi tradition, a very moderate version of Islam. There are significant numbers of secular non-practicing Muslims and very small numbers of people belonging to other religions, agnostics, deists and atheists. Many aspects of Ateizm.org is considered to be revolutionary for Turkey. First time in the history of Turkey every conceivable aspect of Islam is being openly, scientifically, honestly and courageously discussed and criticized. Over the years many thousands of articles appeared in the forum, many of which referred to the verses of Koran and Hadits. With the possible exception of Ilhan Arsel and Turan Dursun’s studies, Koran had never been criticized in Turkey so much before. In addition to these short communications, numerous satires, short stories, poems, comments and lengthy articles were published. A few years after the inception of Ateizm.org, a separate science forum was established and started to enlighten young Turkish minds. During its lifetime Ateizm.org was hacked three times and experienced some serious hosting problems. We survived all of them with flying colors and started over wherever we had left. Last year, however, our web site encountered a different and more ominous kind of problem. In June 2007, without warning, our web site was closed to its Turkish audience with a court order based on a legal action taken by a Turkish creationist named "Adnan Oktar" (now widely known by his pen name "Harun Yahya"). Since ateizm.org was hosted in the US, it remained accessible from abroad, but inaccessible to its main audience in Turkey. If we hired a lawyer and challenged the court order, we probably would have won our case. But we do not want to disclose our identities. This is our biggest weakness. According to our lawyer, there is no way to take a legal action in Turkey and remain anonymous at the same time. Many Turkish intellectuals who were against Islam and outspoken about their views on religion were murdered by Islamic fundamentalists in the past. We do not want to risk our lives. Since we were unable to challenge the court order, we chose to change our domain name to Ateizm1.org and remained in operation. However we were well aware of the fact that the dark force of Harun Yahya would follow us in this endeavor as well. Despite this, we did not want to change our style and language and continued to bitterly criticize a Turkish creationist organization called "Science Research Foundation" ("Bilim Arastirma Vakfi" or "BAV") and its honorary president Harun Yahya. In December 2007 Ateizm.org (then called Ateizm1.org) was closed to Turkish audience for the second time by another court order. Ateizm.org is particularly successful in debunking false claims made by BAV. BAV has international links, countless web sites and vast financial resources. BAV created their own version of Islamic creationism and they became very popular in Turkey and in other Islamic countries. During 2007 Turkish Telecom has been busy blocking access to many other web sites(*), including YouTube, but they had to back off from YouTube ban due to public outrage. In August 2007 popular blogging platform wordpress.com was completely blocked by Turkish Telecom on the ground that a number of "defamation" blogs allegedly made "slanderous" remarks against Harun Yahya. This was also a court order. Harun Yahya, is the spiritual head of a vast Islamic apologist outfit in Turkey, which has reached Islamic publishers in London, Canada and the US. Though Harun Yahya is described by many as a "charlatan", he has made inroads with Muslims all the way from Indonesia to America. His books cover topics including refutations of atheism and Darwinism, romanticism as a weapon of Satan, anti-evolution pseudo-science, affirmation of miracles, and attacks on Freemasons, Zionism, Buddhism, and terrorism (Darwin's fault). Since around 1998, Harun Yahya's operations have focused emphatically on promoting Islamic creationism. Recently, his operations sent a glossy 770 page book about creationism to European and US scientists. This creationist movement has allied itself with the American creationists. In fact, in 2005, American taxpayers had to pay for a Turkish non-scientist creationist speaker who was allied with BAV to come and enter the debate on evolution in Kansas. Majority of web sites that target unscientific claims made by BAV, particularly the web sites promoting free thinking, atheism and views against Islam, do not have sufficient resources nor influential power to create publicity for removing the Turkish Telecom ban. We believe in our cause. We will never be intimidated. We will never stop to enlighten our people. But we are realists also. We know and accept our limitations and capabilities. We also realize that European and American atheist and freethinking organizations do not have the same kind of problems we have, and in spite of their good intensions it would be almost impossible for them to help us in going through difficult times such as this one. Despite our recognition of difficulties related to receiving international support from friendly and humanitarian organizations, we cannot help but draw attention to our growing problems. Obviously we need some sort of support and encouragement. In Turkey almost no journalist sympathizes with our views. Very few of them share our concerns and fears. We need more coverage in the press, and more scholarly writings about atheism, secularism and freethinking. But the Turkish Press in general is not interested in going against the popular Islamic movement in Turkey, which is on the rise. We are sure of one thing that we will never get positive media attention in Turkey. However we also know that if Turkish media or Turkish Government is criticized in Europe or US, they listen and pay more attention to it. Becoming a full member of the European Union is crucial for Turks, therefore whenever issues related to democracy, freedom of speech, human rights and alike are raised in the West, they are taken seriously, sometimes even addressed by the government, particularly if the issue is something that affects Turkey's image or credibility in the West. Therefore it is vitally important that we find prominent international allies eager to support our cause by publicizing this issue as much as possible. We need a lot of noise! The ban on ateizm.org in Turkey is yet another example of fundamentalist Islam gaining ground in a country survived as a secular democracy for well over half a century. Today secular forces in Turkey are struggling to protect democracy. Fundamentalist Islam aided by vast local and foreign financial resources is rapidly gaining ground. Therefore in Turkey, forces of "Secularism", "Democracy" and "Freedom of Speech" need all the help they can get. If you want to help, you may make a plea for removing the ban on ateizm.org. Here is a list of organizations that you may wish to send your request: Telecommunication Agency: Telekomunikasyon Kurumu (www.tk.gov.tr) Address: Yesilirmak Sokak No:16 Demirtepe 06430 ANKARA Tel: 90 312 232 23 23 Fax: 90 312 294 71 45 Email: info@tk.gov.tr Republic of Turkey Ministry of Justice: Turkiye Cumhuriyeti Adalet Bakanligi (www.adalet.gov.tr) T.C. Adalet Bakanligi, 06659 Kizilay ANKARA Tel: 90 312 4177770 Fax: 90 312 4193370 E-mail: Not available Turkish Newspapers: Milliyet Gazetesi (www.milliyet.com.tr) Address: Dogan Medya Center, BAGCILAR 34204 ISTANBUL Tel: 90 212 505 61 11 Editor e-mail: webadmin@milliyet.com.tr tbengin@milliyet.com.tr Aksam Gazetesi (www.aksam.com.tr) Address: Davutpasa C. No.34 34020 Zeytinburnu ISTANBUL / TÜRKIYE Tel: 90 212 449 32 71 Fax: 90 212 481 95 71 E-mail: haber@aksam.com.tr Cumhuriyet Gazetesi (www.cumhuriyet.com.tr) Address: Prof. Nurettin Mazhar Öktel Sokak No:2 Sisli 34381 Istanbul Tel: 90 212 343 72 74 Fax: 90 212 343 72 64 email: postakutusu@cumhuriyet.com.tr News Agency: Anadolu Ajansi (www.aa.com.tr) Anadolu Ajansi Genel Müdürlügü Gazi Mustafa Kemal Bulvari 128/C Tandogan/ANKARA Tel: 90 312 231 70 00 Fax: 90 312 231 21 74 E-mail: ichaber@anadoluajansi.com.tr Should you need more information regarding this matter, you may contact ateizm.org via administrator@ateizm.org Should you need more information on "court orders" please go to this blog page: http://creationistsbanatheism.blogspot.com/2008/01/additional-information_15.html Footnote: (*) Some of the web sites blocked by Turkish Telecom in 2007: http://mfipb.com http://antoloji.com http://calinmisgenclik.com http://calinmis-genclik.com http://sozluk.sourtimes.org http://gizliweb.com http://19.org http://superpoligon.com http://adnanoktar.com http://cevaplar.wordpress.com http://yahyaharun.com http://adnanoktar.wordpress.com http://bilimvedin.blogspot.com http://cevaplar.wordpress.com http://kisiselgoruslerim.blogspot.com http://ateizm.org Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
mantik 0 Ocak 14, 2008 gönderildi Yazar Raporla Share Ocak 14, 2008 gönderildi Yaziyi gonderdigimiz yerlerin listesi: ATEIST SITELER Atheist Alliance International (AAI) President: Margaret Downey (Pennsylvania) http://www.atheistalliance.org/ email: president@atheistalliance.org email(cc): info@atheistalliance.org Richard Dawkins: http://richarddawkins.net/ email: contact@richarddawkins.net email(cc): mediacontact@richarddawkins.net Skeptic Magazine Michael Shermer http://www.skeptic.com/ email: mshermer@skeptic.com email(cc): editorial@skeptic.com Sam Harris http://www.samharris.org/ ** no email, form is available at web site ** Gonderilemedi! American Atheists http://www.atheists.org Email: info@atheists.org American Humanist Association http://www.americanhumanist.org Email: kfrantz@americanhumanist.org Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/ Email: info@atheistfoundation.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au Email: skeptics@bdsn.com.au British Humanist Association http://www.humanism.org.uk Email: info@humanism.org.uk Center For Inquiry / Campus Freethought Alliance http://www.campusfreethought.org email: director@campusfreethought.org cc: president@campusfreethought.org Council for Secular Humanism http://www.secularhumanism.org Email: info@SecularHumanism.org Council of Australian Humanist Societies http://home.vicnet.net.au/~humanist/resources/cahs.html Email: AMcPhate@bigpond.net.au Danish Atheist Society, Ateistisk Selskab Weblink: http://www.ateist.dk Email: sekretaer@ateist.dk Freedom From Religion Foundation http://www.ffrf.org Email: info@ffrf.org Humanist Association of Canada http://humanists.ca Email: HAC@Humanists.ca The Humanist Institute http://www.humanistinstitute.org/ Email: manager@humanistinstitute.org Humanist Society of New Zealand http://www.humanist.org.nz/ Email: jeffhunt90@yahoo.co.nz Humanist Society of Scotland http://www.humanism-scotland.org.uk/ Email: secretary@humanism-scotland.org.uk The Humanists of Florida Association http://www.floridahumanist.org Email: info@floridahumanist.org Institute for Humanist Studies Weblink: http://www.humaniststudies.org Internet Infidels http://www.infidels.org email: scott@infidels.org National Secular Society http://www.secularism.org.uk/ Email: enquiries@secularism.org.uk New Humanist http://www.newhumanist.org.uk Email: info@newhumanist.org.uk NO GOD - Ateismo è Libertà http://www.nogod.it/ Email: nogod@email.it Rational Responders, The http://www.rationalresponders.com/ Email: admin@rationalresponders.com Rationalist International http://www.rationalistinternational.net/ Email: info@rationalistinternational.net Secular Student Alliance http://www.secularstudents.org Email: ssa@secularstudents.org Settimanale di cultura e informazione laica http://www.italialaica.it/ Email: info@italialaica.it Solidarity for Freedom of Conscience http://www.humanism.ro Email: remuscernea@gmail.com South Place Ethical Society (UK) http://www.ethicalsoc.org.uk Email: library@ethicalsoc.org.uk The Finnish Freethinkers' Society http://www.vapaa-ajattelijat.fi/ Email: val@vapaa-ajattelijat.fi The Finnish Skeptics http://www.skepsis.fi/ Email: info@skepsis.fi Unione degli Atei e degli Agnostici Razionalisti - Italian Union of Rationalist Atheists and Agnostics http://www.uaar.it/Unione degli Atei e degli Agnostici Razionalisti/ Email: segretario@uaar.it Vantru http://www.vantru.is Email: ritstjorn.vantruar@gmail.com DUSUNCE OZGURLUGUYLE ILGILI SITELER International Freedom of Expression eXchange (IFEX) http://www.ifex.org/ email: campaigns@ifex.org Amnesty International Campaing Against Internet Repression Web Site http://www.irrepressible.info/ form: http://www.irrepressible.info/newssubmit <- Gonderilemedi email adres bulunamadi!! Ayaan Hirsi Ali The Foundation for Freedom of Expression http://ayaanhirsiali.org/Freedom.html email: info@ayaanhirsiali.org Ellen Johnson Executive Director of the Godless Americans Political Action Committee, and a leading voice on behalf of Atheist civil rights and activism. email: ej@gampac.org YAZARLAR Ronald L. Numbers Bu yazari okumakta oldugum "Scientists confront intelligent design and creationism" ismili kitaptaki "Darwinism, Creationism, and Intelligent Design" baslikli makalesinden taniyorum. "Creationism" (yaraticilik) tarihcesi konusunda uzman. Yukarida bahsettigim kitapta, ve kendi kitaplarinda davamizdan bahsedebilir. Yazar hakkinda bilgi almak icin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Numbers http://histsci.wisc.edu/people/faculty/numbers.shtml email: rnumbers@med.wisc.edu Massimo Pigliucci Ekoloji ve evrim profesoru. "Scientists confront intelligent design and creationism" ismili kitaptaki "The problem with Creationism" baslikli makalesinden taniyorum. Bizden bahsedebilir. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massimo_Pigliucci email: pigliucci@genotypebyenvironment.org Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
mantik 0 Ocak 14, 2008 gönderildi Yazar Raporla Share Ocak 14, 2008 gönderildi Su anda ayni yazinin turkcesini hazirlamaktayiz. Onu da Turkiye'de duyurmaya calisacagiz. Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
mantik 0 Ocak 14, 2008 gönderildi Yazar Raporla Share Ocak 14, 2008 gönderildi Gonderdigimiz yerlerden biri haberi yayinladi bile: http://www.rationalresponders.com/muslims_...heism_in_turkey Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
mantik 0 Ocak 14, 2008 gönderildi Yazar Raporla Share Ocak 14, 2008 gönderildi Aragon'un bu konuyu duyurmak icin actigi blog: http://creationistsbanatheism.blogspot.com/ Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
Requiem 0 Ocak 15, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Ocak 15, 2008 gönderildi süper bir gelişme. Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
Nektar 0 Ocak 15, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Ocak 15, 2008 gönderildi Umarım çok yere ulaşır bu yazılar. Ulaştığı yerde de kalmaz umarım! Başarılar diliyorum... Saygılar Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
umma 0 Ocak 15, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Ocak 15, 2008 gönderildi Sevgili Mantik Yukaridaki organizasyonlardan ayri NYTimes, Was Post , etc gazete ve magazinlerin kose yazarlarina da gonderiyormusunuz?? Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
tolonbey 0 Ocak 15, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Ocak 15, 2008 gönderildi Evvettt Bu konuda bizde yaninizdayiz. Zaten bir yazimda,bizde bazi girisimlerde bulunalim demistim. Cok güzel yaptiniz. Türkcesini verin, elimizden geleni geri koymayiz valla. birlikten guvvet dogar,basarilar tolonbeg Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
mantik 0 Ocak 15, 2008 gönderildi Yazar Raporla Share Ocak 15, 2008 gönderildi Basliktaki yaziyi copy/paste yapmaya uygun hale getirdim. (Onceki halinde copy/paste yapinca metindeki url'ler kayboluyordu). Isteyenler yazinin bu halini uygun gordukleri yerlere gonderebilir. Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
mantik 0 Ocak 16, 2008 gönderildi Yazar Raporla Share Ocak 16, 2008 gönderildi Birbaska blog'da daha yer aldik: http://secularoutpost.blogspot.com/2008/01...-in-turkey.html Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
hayvanadam 0 Ocak 16, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Ocak 16, 2008 gönderildi (düzenlendi) bbc'ye gönderdim. bakarsın ilgilenirler de dünya basınında olay çıkar. edit: e-mail kısmına admin@ateizm.org yazdım. Ocak 16, 2008 tarihinde hayvanadam tarafından düzenlendi Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
redfinity 0 Ocak 16, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Ocak 16, 2008 gönderildi (düzenlendi) Mantik yukarida mektubun gittigi yerleri yazmis. Bu disiplini elimizden geldigince devam ettirmekte fayda var. Bu nedenle, bir yere email gonderdiginizde lutfen gonderdiginiz email adresini bu baslik altinda bildirin ki ayni yere birden fazla mesaj gitmesin. Ocak 16, 2008 tarihinde redfinity tarafından düzenlendi Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
umma 0 Ocak 16, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Ocak 16, 2008 gönderildi readerservice@nytimes.com ve public@nytimes.com adreslerine yolladim Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
redfinity 0 Ocak 17, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Ocak 17, 2008 gönderildi Arkadaslar, Ben asagidaki Ingilizce metni bloglarda, forumlarda vs. kullaniyorum. Uzun metni gondermenin uygun olmadigi ortamlarda sizin de kullanabileceginizi dusunuyorum. Ihtiyaciniz olursa copy/paste yapabilirsiniz. Hi, Ateizm.org, the most prominent Turkish web site on atheism was closed to its Turkish audience for the second time in December 2007 based on a legal action taken by a Turkish creationist named Harun Yahya. The ban on ateizm.org in Turkey is yet another example of fundamentalist Islam gaining ground in a country survived as a secular democracy for well over half a century. Ateizm.org needs your help. Please help us spread the word to get this ban removed. You may read the full story in the following blog: http://creationistsbanatheism.blogspot.com/ Ateizm.org is still accessible outside Turkey at: http://www.ateizm.org Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
redfinity 0 Ocak 17, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Ocak 17, 2008 gönderildi Buraya gonderdim. Atheists For Human Rights communications@atheistsforhumanrights.org Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
manwex 0 Şubat 7, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Şubat 7, 2008 gönderildi türkçesi olsa daha iyi olur çünkü bu beladan kurtulmak için yerli basını ayağa kaldırmak daha önemli ne bileyim internette laiklik kalmadı şeklinde.bütün gazetelere tv kanallarına göndeririz Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
haarun 0 Şubat 7, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Şubat 7, 2008 gönderildi elinize saglık tabii ttnet araplara satıldı islerine gelmedi adilerin bu haklı davamızda sonuna kadar arnızdayım arkadaslar Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
marcus 0 Şubat 8, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Şubat 8, 2008 gönderildi Süper bir çalışma. Tebrik ediyorum. Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
gezgin95 0 Şubat 8, 2008 gönderildi Raporla Share Şubat 8, 2008 gönderildi Fransızca bilenlere yönelik http://www.rationalisme.org/ 'a astım. . Link to post Sitelerde Paylaş
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